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  • Red-1 replied to the topic NHS spending in the forum Chit chat 7 years, 11 months ago

    I am going to try to write down something I think but have trouble putting down on words .
    One of the biggest problems with the NHS is the whole concept of the state looking after you from cradle to grave .
    I think it’s given some of us a view it’s the states job to look after us what ever madness we get up to not us looking after ourselves
    The…[Read more]

  • york replied to the topic NHS spending in the forum Chit chat 7 years, 11 months ago

    Having witnessed the mess that PFI caused the NHS, which was then followed by the closure of so many psychiatric beds that bed occupancy frequently runs at over 100%, which then means that people have to be admitted to private psychiatric hospitals (often hundreds of miles from home) at a cost to the NHS of thousands of pounds per week, not to…[Read more]

  • claro replied to the topic NHS spending in the forum Chit chat 7 years, 11 months ago

    I worked for the NHS for 27 years and the waste was incredible, paying over the odds for light bulbs and photo copier paper for instance.
    Also departments were given an annual budget and if they didn’t spend that budget in the financial year they had the amount they had saved lopped off the next years budget. Therefore near the end of the…[Read more]

  • Jessie replied to the topic NHS spending in the forum Chit chat 7 years, 11 months ago

    The NHS is a bottomless pit. On a TV programme last week there was a very spritly 98 year old who had one operation for his heart, during which he had a stroke and was carted off in an ambulance to another hospital for an operation on his brain to remove the blood clot. Both operations were successful and he went back home to recover. The doctor…[Read more]

  • Luke replied to the topic NHS spending in the forum Chit chat 7 years, 11 months ago

    .S. This is what the folks at Positive Money have to say about QE…

    http://positivemoney.org/2014/06/was…-easing-video/

    “So why does the government cancel essential projects because “there’s no money”, while at the same time the Bank of England was able to create more new money than the entire government spends in 6 months? Why is it that…[Read more]

  • Luke replied to the topic NHS spending in the forum Chit chat 7 years, 11 months ago

    The point of the original piece — which I’m not yet convinced by, and need someone to explain why I shouldn’t be — is that there is a potential alternative source of money other than taxation.

    Art Nouveau said that “government printing physical money leads to inflation, and then hyperinflation”. First, the Positive Money piece implied that…[Read more]

  • pakkasham replied to the topic NHS spending in the forum Chit chat 7 years, 11 months ago

    I know it’s deeply controversial but the NHS maybe needs to charge for somethings to get them better without burden to the tax payer .
    For instance food you eat at home why should you not pay to eat in hospital .
    They would get away with serving the food that I was served if people had to pay for it.

  • Kelly replied to the topic NHS spending in the forum Chit chat 7 years, 11 months ago

    I agree that money alone will not solve the NHS’s problems. It seems to me that the NHS needs more money and to do some things differently.

  • Red-1 replied to the topic NHS spending in the forum Chit chat 7 years, 11 months ago

    Yes the NHS needs more money but if anyone thinks money will solve the problems they way off the mark .
    What we need to do is quickly sort how we deal with the care if the extremely old in our population .
    We are in a tight spot with this as it’s not an easy thing to do quickly.

  • bobby replied to the topic NHS spending in the forum Chit chat 7 years, 11 months ago

    I do think they need to be a little better at spending…i was reading an article on wasted time for calls outs (999 ones) and this one lady phones at least 9 times a day, and gets an ambo or first responder cause “one time she may actually need it” shes clearly got some mental issue…so instead of spending £400 for every time they have to go to…[Read more]

  • Katy replied to the topic NHS spending in the forum Chit chat 7 years, 11 months ago

    Throwing money at the NHS does not make us healthier. My GP told me gleefully that when GPs got that big pay rise a few years back, he cut his working hours and started a classic car restoration business. Colleagues chose to cut their hours. So we gave them more money and we got a reduced service.

    Today my wife interviewed 5 candidates for 2 Band…[Read more]

  • Elbie replied to the topic NHS spending in the forum Chit chat 7 years, 11 months ago

    No, seriously folks, banks do just create money. The current multiplier is about 25 to 1.

    This means that if you put one hundred pounds into a bank account, that bank lends £2,500 to someone else. £2,400 is majic-ked up out of thin air.

    This is called fractional reserve banking.

    At the start of the crash this multiplier was much, much h…[Read more]

  • ester replied to the topic NHS spending in the forum Chit chat 7 years, 11 months ago

    @frogface Exactly what I was thinking. Private banks can’t just fabricate made up money. It does come from somewhere, whether it be from those who invest in the bank, inter bank borrowing or such like. No bank would need bailed out if they just fired on a few extra zeros to their stash! New money needs to be introduced carefully, as the more of it…[Read more]

  • frogface replied to the topic NHS spending in the forum Chit chat 7 years, 11 months ago

    12 BILLION in foreign aid ! …. how much extra does the NHS need ?
    from the dregs of my economics studies years ago, private banks don’t manufacture electronic money. A simplistic view makes it look like that but the banks have assets and liabilities that the money is linked to. Unfortunately, I don’t quite understand it well enough to give a…[Read more]

  • Kelly started the topic NHS spending in the forum Chit chat 7 years, 11 months ago

    Disturbing, if true.

    (You can mute the annoying raspy muzak – there’s no spoken commentary, and I have transcribed the essential text below.)

    If it isn’t true, I’d like to know which bits aren’t.

    Our NHS is facing a “humanitarian crisis”.
    Leading doctors have warned the Prime Minister lives are being…[Read more]

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