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  • November 30, 2017 at 10:56 am #325

    Can’t say I am surprised! We seem to have caught up with America . When I was a teenager (dawn of time) the only time you saw anyone eating in the street was after the pictures when you got fish and chips in newspaper. Everyone now seems to be clutching a phone, a bottle of drink, or munching on cake, takeaway , or sweets! There are more cafe’s than other shops in our high street. There is so much choice in the shops and everything is jumbo sized, or a bogoff. I am no slim jim, but my weight has gone on over 60 odd years, not about 10 as so many young people and Im still not classed as obese !

    November 30, 2017 at 10:56 am #326

    I had a brief glimpse of the world wide table on the news – odd thing is many of the English speaking countries top the list, USA (natch) Canada, Australia, NZ and us. Have we all been colonised by MacDonalds et al?

    November 30, 2017 at 10:57 am #327

    Obese? I very nearly spat out my double chocolate cheesecake in disgust.

    November 30, 2017 at 10:58 am #328

    The UK the most obese, are they being serious? Has anyone looked at most of those Italian women who’ve reached that certain age? Man, they’re huge …. and they seem to assume male plumage too!

    Personally, I’d much prefer our only slightly chubby ladies, thanks just the same!

    November 30, 2017 at 10:59 am #329

    I don’t think it is MacDonald’s, or other fast food outlets as such, because at least, if the customer is interested, they can tell you their ingredients exactly. In fact MacD’s can be a godsend to food allergy sufferers because they will happily tailor their menu to fit. I blame the supermarkets because they put all sorts of unnecessary additional ingredients even in their food to cook ‘from scratch’. Trying to buy a plain raw chicken to cook at home can be a challenge! And the tiny print is not designed to help the discerning customer. I have recently become aware of how often maize/corn is a hidden ingredient in many foods, which you would not expect to contain it, such as fruit-juice from concentrate. Received wisdom is that those who are trying to stretch a budget can safely buy such juice because it just has the water taken out, in the country of origin, then added back in when it arrives where it is to be sold. My research shows that corn/corn derived products are also added. Those who try to eat less sugar by buying e.g. jam made with fruit juice rather than sugar will find themselves eating far more corn, which may be GM, than they intended. then there are all the ‘low-fat’ products where the fat has been replaced by sugar in one form or another – again often either lactose or corn derived oligo-fructose/HFCS.
    Many more families in Western non-English-speaking countries cook from scratch than is the case here. Even ready-made mayo contains maize, as well as sugar, neither of which you would put in if you were cooking from scratch. Those who live in English speaking countries, need to overhaul their diet, on the whole, so that they understand exactly what they are eating.

    November 30, 2017 at 10:59 am #330

    I used to do a bit of outside catering so I know a little about the economics of selling food.
    The most expensive part of any meal is protein, usually meat and its also the most temperature sensitive to store. Carbohydrate is cheap, to produce, easy to store, most cereal based products can be stored dry, and add a bit of salt or sugar and they are addictive. The reason why there are so many breakfast cereals and biscuits is because apart from taking up a huge amount of room on the shelves, they are relatively easy to sell. You do not need expensive fridges and freezers, and they have a long shelf life.

    Nearly every food outlet will sell you a large amount of bread, chips or potatoes in any form to convince you are getting good value, while they sell you the cheapest, smallest amount of meat/fish, to make the most amount of profit. The ‘go large’ meal has become normal, even a pub sandwich comes with chips.

    My favourite unhealthy shop bought meals are the ‘meal deals’ where the dessert is usually about 350 calories, and if you eat the whole meal as sold you have nearly eaten your daily allowance in one meal, for a women that’s about 2000 calories. For some reason these meals seem more healthy than fish and chips wrapped in newspaper, but with your fish and chips you would probably get more/better quality protein and certainly less additives.

    The politics of food mean until we all have obesity induced illness and it costs the NHS a fortune, nothing will be done. It makes me cross that the manufacturers can downsize products to increase their profits but not to help the public reduce their calorie intake.

    November 30, 2017 at 11:00 am #331

    I watched the food programme that went through the decades. Interesting viewing. Sugar has been hidden and introduced into many of our foods. Coupled with that people seem to push more pens than have active jobs I think is where the problem lies.

    November 30, 2017 at 11:01 am #332

    @kelly I agree. Sugar in a multitude of forms has been introduced by food manufacturers – imo the worst ‘innovation’ was the ‘low-fat’ industry – and the myth perpetrated by the manufacturers and the medical profession that eating fat makes you fat. I remember as a child (in the ’50s and ’60s) always having a pudding after meals but those puddings were home made and although they contained sugar were not ‘super-sweet’ as manufactured ones are now. Of course, we walked a lot more then, than is usual now, there weren’t as many cars around then.

    November 30, 2017 at 11:01 am #333

    The modern lifestyle pays a hug role exercise is no longer essential for survival for loads of people add people who don’t know how to cook those who do and cook to much there’s a long list of things driving this thorny problem .
    I think public policy plays a huge role the NHS will be charge of you mantra has permeated the Brian’s of many people who just vaguely think someone else will deal with there bad joints ,diabetes ,shot heart etc etc when the person who has most influence is the individual .
    I am on a diet ATM after MrGS retired I slowly gained weight until I felt awful about two months ago I decided I had to do something .
    Strict strict diet no falling of the wagon and I have lost just short of two stone in two months despite have a thyroid that’s responding to medication it can be done the only person who can do this is you , Fat children are another matter of course the role of parents s is huge .
    Indvuduals are the authors of there own misery in this respect .

    November 30, 2017 at 11:02 am #334

    It doesn’t surprise me.

    I remember looking at younger daughter’s primary school photo for year 6 and realising that and about half the class were severely overweight, and and fair few would be classed obese.

    This is in a reasonably affluent middle class area – with countryside all around. You couldn’t blame lack of opportunity or sports facilities round here either.

    I am guessing that too many kids just do not move enough. If they are obese then, what hope for the future. It is scary.

    November 30, 2017 at 11:03 am #335

    No surprises.

    We drink too much, we eat too much cheap processed rubbish, too much meat in huge portions, we don’t exercise enough, people in poverty can’t afford fresh veg/fruit. Food is seen as a casual thing to stuff in your face rather than something to think about. It’s a sorry situation all round.

    Compared to other countries, we are absolute gluttons

    I have friends in Tokyo so am lucky enough to visit a lot and the difference in how food is approached there is incredible. Japan has a gazillion more cafes/restaurants/foodstalls in one road than we do in this entire country (slight exaggeration but not that much!) and people eat out a LOT – very very cheaply too. But it’s all extremely high quality and fresh and treated as a work of art, even on the tiniest street food stall. Every eating place has an open kitchen because food and cooking are revered. People are obsessed with the detail of it. They also hardly eat any sickly sweet desserts. Portion size is way smaller and variety is everything – like our ‘5 a day’ fruit and veg rule, they live by 30 different foods a day.

    In comparison, on my commute home yesterday, I watched a man eat 3 doughnuts in a row while on the phone to his partner discussing a takeaway…

    November 30, 2017 at 11:04 am #336

    No surprises for me either…

    What do we expect when the the bulk of foods in supermarkets is highly processed, high in sugar, high in fat, high meat consumption (every meal), high dairy consumption.

    The whole of the developed/developing world has turned its back on natural foods in moderation. Everything you see is wrapped in plastic and full of preservatives.

    Not only is it highly polluting to produce these foods, but it’s also highly dangerous to eat so much meat and dairy… this country isn’t as bad as America but intensive farming is the TOP cause of pollution on this planet and yet you won’t see Greenpeace or any other organisation blaming farming. Because they get sponsored by the food producers that use these farms for meat and dairy.

    There’s so much hypocrisy the mind boggles but it’s all tied to profit-making corporations making money out of people’s appetite for more easy-food. Yet, the NHS spent £16b on obesity related conditions. More than the police and fire services combined. Thats our money. If the HCPs had any say on public health, heart surgeons would probably tell us to cut out processed food, cut down on intensively farmed meat and dairy. I used to hear it regularly in talks at Diabetes UK when I worked in CV.

    November 30, 2017 at 11:05 am #337

    people should definitely be counselled to help heal whatever trauma is affecting they ability to lead a healthy lifestyle – and also educated by dietitians so that people can learn how to eat healthily. No joke, I would support this as it has been proven that lots of mental health issues contribute to obesity.

    I also have a theory that if the education system brought back self-sufficiency lessons e.g. cooking, food, gardening and home tech kids would be more educated from a young age to recognise what a healthy diet and lifestyle is. At the moment this kind of education is only available at private schools. The parents that could be teaching these skills at home are often in full-time employment in order to afford homes. It’s not like it was in my parents day where my dad’s salary could support the whole family and my mum stayed home and taught us how to grow and cook food. The economy has forced a “convenience based lifestyle” upon many modern day families. It’s not healthy so moves like education and counselling would certainly help.

    The Carter report even suggests that the NHS mandate has a focus on prevention – yet to see any extra funding going to employing full-time dietitians and counsellors in obesity clinics and specialist centres in the UK though…

    November 30, 2017 at 11:06 am #338

    Why do you blame the food manufacturers? People have free will to buy their products or not. And plenty of people eat them within a workable calorie input and aren’t fat. I can’t open a packet of biscuits or a 150g bag of crisps without scoffing the lot. I don’t blame Crawfords and Tyrells, I just don’t keep them in the house unless they are locked in a time controlled cupboard where I can’t get at them when my free will has been loosened by a bit of wine.

    People are eating fewer calories than they did in the past, in general. They’re just moving a lot less.

    November 30, 2017 at 11:07 am #339

    @frogface Social responsibility.

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