November 23, 2017 at 1:39 pm #292
@red-1 I think you are totally right Goldenstar, but what politician is going to say it, even if they think it? When the NHS was brought into being the theory was that it would become less expensive as the population’s health would improve. Well no doubt the population’s health has improved, but for drug companines and so on, they have had a wonderful system of a guanteed market for their goods and services. And very wonderful a lot of them are. Having family members working for the NHS working on equipment that costs £milions but. ensures longer and better lives. Just everyday equipment is a vast, vast improvement on what was available in the 1950s and 1960s.
I wouldn’t call all NHS staff as angels either, however unpopular that may be. Doctors tend to be empire builders and some staff seem to regard the NHS’s first duty to employ and look after them, before patients and “the taxpayer.”
My family member at the NHS has some fairly hair-raising stories to tell. It is very, very difficult if there is an incompetent member of staff and she has come across some and wondered where they were trained. If there is any assessment they call out “stress” and leave work yet continue to be paid for months. Usually the problem can be resolved with more training, or moving sideways and rarely is anyone actually sacked, but it is all very costly and time consuming. As for employing Agency staff to fill posts – that costs an arm and a leg.
It has been said before, but it is true, that the NHS seems to have become the nation’s “religion” if you like. Everyone believes in it and everyone supports it and any hint of lessening the service and there is uproar.November 23, 2017 at 1:41 pm #293
@red-1 Where do you draw the line though? There are so many incidents or diseases that can be ‘blamed’ on lifestyle?
anyone having an accident while taking part in leisure activities.
Diet and heart disease
Smoking and cancer
Should a workplace pay for the health care of an employee injured at work?
Car insurance pay for injuries caused by a car insured by them?November 23, 2017 at 1:42 pm #294
@kelly Interesting points, and you missed out the hugely significant and costly effects of booze upon the nation …….. but then the revenue derived from alcohol sales more than covers the caring costs to the nation I’d have thought.
I do though have some agreement with Goldenstar in that it’s wrong for us to wantonly or recklessly ignore what we know to carry serious risk and simply expect the State to pick us up when we fall.
I’ve never before considered the possibility that insurance companies should be responsible for the hospital care of those injured in car accidents, after all they pay compensation to those who are injured, so you make a valid point.
I’ve no problem with the NHS seeking out ways to share the costs, but we’re currently in a halfway house with ministers assuring us of the additional £millions which are being ploughed in, with the juxtaposition that the system is failing.
It’s my view and I suspect of others, that government needs to man-up, face the problems and look to ways of sharing the costs with those who use the system and have an adequate health insurance aspect to their policies.
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